stem-loop qRT-PCR problem: fw primer annealing to stem-loop

Use this category for questions related to various quantitative PCR methods, including real time PCR, reverse transcription (RT)/PCR, qPCR, etc. For general PCR methods, continue to use the DNA/General PCR forum

Moderators: r.rosati, Suzanne

stem-loop qRT-PCR problem: fw primer annealing to stem-loop

Postby newyear » Nov 05 2010 4:10 am

Hi everyone.

I'm having a problem quantifying mature miRNAs using stem-loop RT-PCR primers specific to several miRNA (I multiplex several stem-loop RT primers in one reaction), followed by SYBR GREEN qPCR analysis. For some of the miRNA candidates I get nice specificity (checked by cloning and sequencing), but for others, apparent from the sequencing, it seems like the forward amplification primer anneals to different places on the stem-loop RT primer. I've tried 'normal' specificity things; 1) higher annealing temperatures (up to 70 deg/celcius) which helps for one candidate, 2) lowering stem-loop RT primer concentrations in the RT reaction, thinking that the massive overload of RT primer could be the basis for the chance annealing of fw primer to the excess RT primer, but this only affected the CP values (higher CP values), even for the candidates with nice specificity.

So, my question is: What to do?! How can I increase the specificity? Should I try changing the ion concentrations in the qPCR reactions? Use Locked Nucleic Acids (LNAs)? Anybody got experience?

Thanks a lot :)
newyear
newcomer
newcomer
 
Posts: 2
Joined: Nov 05 2010 3:42 am

Re: stem-loop qRT-PCR problem: fw primer annealing to stem-l

Postby semmelmk » Nov 19 2010 7:12 am

For miRNA detection you don't have much space to place a miRNA specific FWD primer. Very often the FWD primer has more or less the same sequence as the miRNA. That means redesigning the FWD primer won't be possible or help you in many cases.
You have to redesign your stem-loop RT primer? Maybe pick a bacterial sequence.
semmelmk
technician-in-training
technician-in-training
 
Posts: 8
Joined: Sep 30 2010 6:54 am

Re: stem-loop qRT-PCR problem: fw primer annealing to stem-l

Postby newyear » Jul 26 2012 4:16 am

Efrat: You send me a mail in here, about this post, but you did not leave any contact information so I'll answer you here.
You asked if I ever managed to solve these problems, and the answer is in short; NO. It seems that this system only works for some small RNAs and they have to be relatively abundant. Sorry. But I still think it is much better than Northern Blotting
newyear
newcomer
newcomer
 
Posts: 2
Joined: Nov 05 2010 3:42 am


Return to Real-Time qPCR/qRT-PCR Methods

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests